Severe Noise Issue in Our Apartment, Any Help Is Much Appreciated!

Hi OzBargainers,

I’m reaching out in desperation, hoping someone here might have advice or insights. Since buying a pre-owned apartment in Mascot Central last November, our lives have become a nightmare. Every single day, we’re exposed to intense industrial noise from the Woolworths loading dock, from 7:00 am until 11:30 pm.

Despite trying everything we can, nothing has changed, and the issue is seriously impacting our wellbeing.

How the Noise Reaches Us:

Thanks to Meriton’s brilliant design, our apartment is physically connected to the Woolworths loading dock, a detail we only discovered a month after moving in. The dock floor sits on the same horizontal level as the ceiling of our apartment. This means any impact on the loading dock floor is transmitted straight into our unit. The noise is clearly structural-borne, not airborne.

I made two images here hopefully they explain better than my wording above.

Typical daily noise includes:

  • Trolleys rolling
  • Manual/electric pallet jacks moving loads
  • Pallets or heavy items dropping — sometimes like a bomb going off
    And other industrial-level thuds and crashes

How Bad Is It?

The noise is relentless. My wife and I both feel like our home is uninhabitable. We’re often woken at 7am, can’t nap, can’t relax, and can’t sleep until midnight. Sometimes it literally gives us heart palpitations.

If you're curious (or skeptical), please listen to the recordings we’ve collected: I’m confident you'll be shocked at how bad it is.

What We’ve Tried So Far:

  • Reported to building management (Meriton): No action taken.
  • Reported to strata manager: They pushed it back to building management.
  • Reported to Meriton's commercial manager: He visited for 2 minutes (no noise during that time), then commissioned a noise test from a Meriton-associated company. The report claimed “no issue”; it was literally one line and completely misleading.
  • Reported to EPA: They referred us to Bayside Council.
  • Contacted Bayside Council: A kind officer is assisting us. He contacted Woolworths to request noise limits (7am–10pm), but WWS is ignoring it, and noise still goes until 11:30pm. Even if they stuck to hours, it wouldn’t fix the intensity and frequency of the noise.
  • Paid over $2,000 for a proper acoustic report: The independent engineer monitored our apartment over two days and confirmed the noise is severe. The findings completely contradict the Meriton-commissioned report. I’ve submitted this report to the council, hoping it will add pressure.

Where We Stand:

Despite all this, nothing has improved. We’re exhausted. Meriton and Woolworths continue to dodge responsibility. I’ve started considering filing a complaint with NSW Fair Trading or even escalating to the Local Justice Court; though I’m not sure how effective that would be.

Please Help!

Has anyone experienced something similar or know how to escalate this further? Any legal, technical, or even media-related advice would be incredibly appreciated.

Thank you so much in advance for reading and for any help you can offer!

Update 22/06/2025

Firstly, I want to say thank you to everyone for all the advice&support. I didn't expect so many comments to a point where I am busy reading them all and replying as many as I can. I love you all!

I made two images here hopefully they explain better than my wording above. Despite we are suffering from the issue, the issue itself is somewhat interesting.

Purchased beeswax earplugs and let's see how it goes tomorrow morning.

Update 23/06/2025

To the many OzBargainers who suggested "sell and move": I sincerely appreciate the advice just as I appreciate the advice which helps with fighting against the issue. As a matter of fact, I appreciate all comments which inevitably help bumping this post and leading to more visibility. Sell and move is probably the most practical path on the table. But we will not sell/rent it out in the near future and we will keep fighting. At the end of the day, some people are just more stubborn than others.

I don't think there is anything related to heroism here; if there is, then I have to play that hero for my family(which is just my wife and me) needs. In the last few months, we received many support from friends, friends' friends, people I know, people I don't know; there is no way for us to forfeit now.

We don't deserve to live in such condition, so do the potential buyers on the market if we decide to sell it.

Just sharing a quote from Interstellar
"It's not possible". "No, it's necessary".

Now back to the topic:
As I mentioned in some of the comment threads, we are not sensitive to noise at all. Instead we are quite insensitive to noise. I know this statement is quite subjective, but we lived near Mascot(renting) earlier, and we still decided to buy a property here despite the high population density and the notorious airplane noise which should add some weight to the statement. And in my entire life(I am at my early 30s), I lived in many places: beside busy road; right above busy bus stop; near construction site; having neighbors playing instrument a lot; none of these bothered me.

I highly suspect that the issue might be newly introduced. Because the 1st owner owned the place for 8 years(they lived here for a couple years and then rent it out in the last few years), and everything(the loading dock, WWS, the residential block) is there for 8 years. I talked to strata, talked to WWS store manager, they said I am the first one to complain about it(they might be lying tho, but let's assume they are telling the truth first). Due to the severeness of the noise, I don't think there is any chance that people just bear with it for years. Could it be there was some good insulation in place but fell off or went broken due to time goes by? or due to a few renovation work from WWS recently? IMO, the biggest blocker for now is the people in charge probably think it's just we have sensitive ears and refuse to acknowledge the issue, then no investigation is initiated. But we really need some professional to figure out the exact reason for the noise. If we can get to know that, there could be an comparatively easy fix or at least start to think about potential mitigation ways.

Comments

    • +10

      Yes, we did get ear plugs; but it only reduces like 10% of the noise. Still woken up by noises around 7am every singe day

        • +1

          @Pussqunt Thanks for ur advice. I will try!

        • +2

          Ear plugs are not the answer - period!

          • @TilacVIP: I agree, it does not solve the problem, but if any ear plug works which can help with the sleeping issue sets up a foundation for us to fight again the issue in long term.

            • @sekaisan: please don't fight long term .. you need to sell.

        • +6

          How were you at high school physics?

          You do know the difference between sound waves (airborne) and physical vibrations/reverberations through structural materials right?

          I love when people think putting in ear plugs is like stepping into your own personal anechoic chamber; clearly they've never used them for any sustained length of time.

          The highest decibel rating any ear plugs have is around ~30dB, about as loud as someone talking in the same room as you. Sound waves are attenuated somewhat by earplugs but they won't do jack sh*t about physical vibrations being transmitted into the walls of your room at night which is what the OP is describing.

          Ear plugs really only help to attenuate a fairly narrow band of the human hearing frequency spectrum; any sounds that are either too low or too high in frequency will still be auditable enough to disrupt sleep, particularly for light sleepers.

          Source: I've been wearing ear plugs to help me sleep for close to 15 years now, I've used them in every environment imaginable (planes, trains, homes, cars, etc) and I've tried damn-near every single kind on the market. They're helpful but they're not some magical spell that transports your ears to another dimension; people really do overestimate their effectiveness especially because they fail to take into account the many anatomical variances in people's ear canals which hinder their effectiveness and comfort.

          I'll also add that most of the same limitations also apply to active-noise cancelling technology in either IEMs or circumaural headphones.

          • -1

            @Miami Mall Alien: Good for you buddy. I love it when people read what they want and reply to made up arguments.

      • I've tried alot of ear plugs, the best is ones made out beeswax, sounds weird but they block out so much sound and mould to ear perfectly. The brand is Aussie ear plugs if you search that on eBay and make sure you get the blue beeswax ones they are fantastic (but not cheap).

      • +1

        Just cram nine more plugs in your ear to get to the 100%.

      • -1

        What did ChatGPT-4 say when you asked it (prior to instructing it to create this post)?

    • +5

      You have to be the most annoying person on OZB. You want to spend 800k plus to wear ear plugs?

      • You have to be the most annoying person on OZB.

        Why do I 'have' to be? 🤔

        • +5

          Yeah, why do you? No friends?

  • +84

    I'll sell it and move elsewhere. This ain't going anywhere.

    Edit: get the new Sony m6, heard the noise cancellation is top notch.

    • +87

      Buyers please note: inspections will be at 6am and at midnight only.

      • +4

        RE agents almost always have music playing during the inspections (at least when we were looking last year), it's supposed to make prospective buyers feel comfortable but may have an additional benefit here

        • +7

          Turn up the bass so prospective buyers don't realise why the walls are actually shaking.

      • +2

        That's how they got OP.

      • +4

        We did two inspections before our purchase both around noon. This issue is hard to surface during inspection. Due to the nature of loading dock work which is intermittent, they don't work there constantly between 7am-1130pm, only when they need to move around stocks/pallets. Also, strangely, we both feel the noise issue got much worse since we moved in. Might be some structural damage that is deteriorating over time?

        • +6

          I know it's sad, but I think you will have a tough time getting what you consider a satisfactory resolution - some people are sensitive to noise, and even if you lessen it somewhat it still may drive you crazy.

          Best thing is to try and sell and schedule inspection times for around lunch time (surely the WW workers have to have a break/change of shift etc) and hope for the best. How long have you owned it?

          • @bohn: We bought it last Nov and moved in right after. Sadly we haven't got any firm sleep since then:(

    • +8

      That's our last move I guess. But I prefer not doing so since another group of ppl gonna suffer the same which I will feel guilty. After all, it's Meriton's responsibility.

      • +6

        feel guilty? .. this is ruining your life .. just sell and move on

      • Its a beautiful home for the hearing impaired, your assumption that all buyers have perfect hearing is very short sighted.

    • +10

      Even if you shut out the noise with triple-glazed windows and ear plugs/white noise, there will likely still be vibrations. If you're sensitive to vibrations, it will be almost as bad even without the noise.

    • +7

      Install triple-glazed windows?

      The problem is it is not through air but from floor vibration.

      move out?

      Sadly we bought the place:( that would be our last move.

      Nothing is going to happen. Are you expecting the Council to close down Woolworths? The issue is a lack of insulation. It's not Woolworths' problem.

      Yes, I don't blame WWS. It's the problem of whoever built the place. It would have the same problem if Coles/Aldi running business at the same place.

    • +9

      It's not air-transmitted noise it's through the building. You haven't lived in a poorly built apartment yet. My last one was so bad you can hear kids jumping or anyone dragging a chair across the floor. It's can be very annoying.

    • glazed windows will do nothing, read what op wrote

  • +12

    In all honesty, what do you want the outcome to be? As you said, even if noise limits were in place, it wouldn't make anything better.

    How long is a piece of string? How far and long do you go to try and resolve this?

    Unfortunately, it just comes with the apartment territory. My sister rented an apartment for 12 months and she could hear the neighbour vacuuming next door.

    This is just one of many reasons not to buy an apartment.

    • +8

      I hope Meriton/WWS can put some mitigation measurement fix to the loading dock or add some insulation on walls&floors. I will keep fighting for a while but not sure how far we can go since we don't get enough sleep every day.

      • +4

        Okay and that could take a very long time to get a resolution but then also complete the fit out. Is it honestly worth it? Just sell and move. They will argue that they were there before you.

      • VIC is slightly different, but I assume WW is part of the same Owners Corp(s)? If so, this is absolutely an OC matter to be resolved by the OC. I'd be taking steps into that first before any developer.

        • generally WW won't be part of the owners corp but whoever controls the retail spaces that WW consumes.

          • @01011010: If WW is physically in the same building, it, or the Landlord entity must be part of the OC.

            • @Typical16-bitEnjoyer: This is correct, and it's unlawful for a landlord to lease to one entity who derrogates from the right to quiet enjoyment of another lessee. I note you're not a lessee but your title is derived from some community title, so I'd there's a similar concept at law.

              I suspect, though, that there's a body corporate that is a separate entity between the overall landlord and then each of the retail entities. To that end, there's no privity of contract between your landlord and the retail tenants…

              N.b. quiet enjoyment is not literally "quiet" enjoyment, it just means you should be free from nuisance (it seems like WW cause a genuine nuisance - look up private nuisance in a law handbook for more info)

              Still, if you're willing to spend $2k on acoustic reports it might be worth spending $2k on a property lawyer.

              OP: Feel free to DM if you want but I'm not a property lawyer (I do teach it to undergrad students periodically, however).

        • +1

          Given the noise is also in normal business hours not during most peoples sleeping time (sorry OP but 7am is not early) it will be a tough road to win any action, especially as they were already there when he bought the place.

  • -7

    Where is the noise coming from? Usually wall noise reductions pretty good and the weak points are windows. Are you able to add additional windows to existing windows?

    • +2

      Where is the noise coming from?

      here…

      "Every single day, we’re exposed to intense industrial noise from the Woolworths loading dock"

    • +2

      It'll only work if you lay a 1 metre thick reinforced concrete padding with multiple layers of sound insulation material in between then it'll might work… Make it 5 metres thick.

  • +26

    Play "Down Down (Prices Are Down)" outside your window really loud during the hours Woolworths are making noise…

    • +2

      Hate that I upvoted a JV comment but this one is good 😂

  • +35

    I am constantly amazed at the amount of people who buy a house or a unit on the edge of an industrial area or above a night club or attached to a loading dock/logistics area that has existed in that that area for a decade or more and move in without due diligence and then expect that everyone around them changes their habits and operations.

    While I get that you are frustrated with the situation you find yourself in, I don't feel like you are going to have one ounce of success with fighting someone like Woolworths or your strata. They will all just play the "it's within acceptable limits" and the fact that you are the only one complaining.

    You could maybe try taking the REA to task over it, but to what end? They are not going to take the house back, as it would be considered a private sale between you and the vendor and there is no ACL on private sales. Even if you do successfully Sue the REA for misrepresentation of the property and the noise, you are not going to get a free house out of it. You may get a small settlement, even if you do win, and it's not going to change the fact that the noise will still be there.

    • +4

      I am constantly amazed at the amount of people who buy a house or a unit on the edge of an industrial area or above a night club

      Usually, those apartments closer to the dock are cheaper than the rest.

      • +20

        That coupled with the REA only able to show the place at set times of the day and on set days of the week and only for very short periods of time.

        I once had a REA try and show me a house that backed into a train line and he said it was a nice quiet cul-de-sac… Viewed it twice and never a train, so on another day, I looked up the train timetable and went there in my own and the noise was deafening from the street.

        • +1

          I remember the time I was looking at apartments, for an unbelievable reason, REA did mention the reason behind some apartments are cheaper within the complex (next to the main entrance, above a restaurant, etc) lol

        • -2

          @pegaxs There is a train line across the road from my apartment in Sydney that was bought in 1999 for $117000, now it’s worth well over 1 million. It took me 2-3 nights to get used to the train noise until it didn’t bother me and I could easily sleep through it. It doesn’t impact me and my work or the clients I speak to when I work from home. More noise comes from people that live in the building. Movies and home theatre are 2 of my several hobbies, so it’s easy to drown it all out if there ever are noises that do disturb me.

          • +1

            @HuzzahIndeed: I loved being near a train, something about the noise I find soothing. That and the light planes I heard when I was a kid.

            • @Franc-T: That’s certainly a plus if you get those feelings from train and plane noise Franc-T. My point about properties near train lines and mentioning my situation was, the other member seemed to be implying that properties near train lines are uninhabitable, and are a bad investment when it’s quite the opposite especially in a city like Sydney.

              It’s funny you should bring up plane noise, because suburbs around the new Western Sydney international airport opening soon in the Liverpool and Campbelltown LGAs is where significant growth is happening in Sydney at the moment.

        • +9

          Rented a place that was on a junction of two rail lines. Noise was pretty bad. However, the overnight track works were even worse with the squibs on the tracks going off to warn the workers.

          When we were warehouse hunting we looked at one place that seemed OK when we visited but we noticed it was near to a flower warehouse. Loading up for deliveries to the florists in the early hours of the morning would be noisy.

          People really need to drop by at all hours to see what issues might arise. Traffic, near nightclubs, neighbours selling drugs.

          • +3

            @try2bhelpful: Add time of day air pollution too, I once looked at a house that seemed solid but one night I drove past and noticed the area smelled like every second house was burning wood. Might as well have been in an industrial area.
            Sometimes it's not possible to pickup these unforseen issues until it's too late.

        • This 100%. Do your own research. Even knock on the neighbours doors and politely ask them about any issues.

    • +7

      Like the people who bought houses near Sandown race course then complained they could hear cars on the track. Yeah no shit dumb arse.

      • +4

        They did the same thing with the speedway in Paramatta that had been there for 50+ years…

      • +1

        They'll then complain about the traffic once Sandown is racecourse is converted to 7,500 residential homes.

      • That was what happened to Amaroo Park too. Housing estates went in at Annangrove, residents complained about the noise from the race circuit that had been there forever.

      • Or the people moving into the new developments near Lucas Heights and and then complaining that a nuclear reactor is there.

    • +9

      It's not obvious to find it out in our case. It is not visible. By looking at it the apartment, it is quite far away from WWS. Just somehow behind the scene, our unit is very close to the loading dock which is a small platform in a huge space(the complete loading dock is huge space in the middle of two residential buildings). I found it out after many personal investigation. Initially I thought it's from the units upstairs; I even called security they can hear the noise but couldn't find the source of the noise.

      • Are other units affected the same way?

        • +3

          Surely they have to be. OP should should team up with neighbours.

        • +2

          Yes, two of my neighbours are affected by the same thing. They both renting, it's quite easy for them to get rid of the problem(end lease early and find other place). Also our problem is the biggest since we are the closest to the loading dock…

          • +1

            @sekaisan: Distance to loading dock plus or minus a couple of apartments is going to be trivial. Low frequency banging from a loading dock will travel absolutely ages though a concrete structure.

            … hate to have to jump onto the bandwagon, but the only fix is to move.

            I have a friend that had to move house for similar reasons after trying all sorts of noise abatement treatments. And that was a freestanding house.

    • +4

      This is Australia, there isn't really much choose from anymore. We are not the lucky country we once were.

  • +7

    TL;DR OP moves below loading dock. Loading dock makes loading dock noises. OP pikachu face

  • Put it up for sale and ask your REA to play some white noise during inspections.

      • +3

        Unless it’s Eminem

  • -1

    Take all the written reports to Woolworths head office. Ask them to buy you out, so they can accommodate workers in your unit.

    Or lawyer up, and roll the dice

    • +1

      Or lawyer up

      Are Woolies doing anything illegal ?

      • +2

        Are Woolies doing anything illegal ?

        Probably. Although the government watchdogs won't dare say that.

        • +1

          Probably.

          What ?

          • +2

            @jv: You asked if Woolies are doing anything illegal.
            They probably are.

            • @tenpercent:

              They probably are

              What are they doing that is illegal?

              • +1

                @jv: You are not that obtuse. There are regs around impacts on amenity. OP may or may not have a leg to stand on. Seeking legal advice may provide avenues of redress.Or not.

                • -1

                  @Protractor:

                  There are regs around impacts on amenity.

                  So how do you know they are doing anything illegal, against the regulations?

                  • +1

                    @jv: Did I say I was that lawyer?

                    Like I said, it's a roll the dice situation. IANAL

                    BTW I take my previous assumption back.You are more than obtuse

            • @tenpercent: It depends on what the conditions of their DA are. They can also pay additional money for greater extended hour provisions, companies like Woolworths wouldn’t hesitate to pay for it.

              Notice how the OP said that the council ranger “requested”, so they have ‘asked’ not ‘told’.

              • @HuzzahIndeed: I was alluding to other illegal things they're probably doing. Cartel/duopoly related things.

            • +1

              @tenpercent: I love how you just used JV's own dumb way of communicating against them.

              Chef kiss

      • Is Albo?

        • -8

          He's on holidays overseas again…

          Next week he is off to the Netherlands to hear about issues affecting the North Atlantic at taxpayer's expense…

          • +3

            @jv: Yo don’t understand how to negotiate properly as part of your job do you?

            • -7

              @try2bhelpful: Negotiate to get a free, tax payer funded holiday???

              • +5

                @jv: It isn’t a holiday it is a business trip. Probably your boss doesn’t let you travel for business. I suspect he doesn’t let you client face.

                • -6

                  @try2bhelpful:

                  It isn’t a holiday it is a business trip.

                  🤣

                  Sure, because Australia is looking at relocating to the North Atlantic….

                  Defitely a holiday to the Netherlands, as was Fiji, USA and Canada… and before that Jakarta, Rome, Vatican, Singapore….

                  All over the last month…

                  Gotta get those frequent flyer miles up !!! and free booze in the Chairman's lounge….

                  • +3

                    @jv: Gotta get subs from somewhere, don't think they're coming from the US.

                  • +10

                    @jv: Just absolute BS mate. It is obvious you are clueless as to how diplomacy, trade and defence interaction between countries work. You really seem to be obsessed with the ALP. The last election must really have bitten hard given the absolute drubbing of the LNP. Maybe you need to contact someone to deal with your obsessions. It is going to be a long three years for you.

                    • -7

                      @try2bhelpful:

                      Just absolute BS mate.

                      Nope, it's all in black & white…

                      Albo's Contiki tour… Visit 7 countries in 30 days !!!

                      I wonder if he 'tips' the tour guides ?

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